government but certainly lower-level people who can ample trigger defenses and we have to be worried about this. again i'm doubtful there are too many muslims in the top echelon for the usg. >> i want to go back to something that jay was saying about criminal warfare and the state department. i don't think that is the key problem. i think the key problem is the view which is very popular in the united states including united states government, that the islamists, not a qaeda is the way to the future. it is the authentic voice of the muslim world in america which is the ultimate push and it reminds me of the old days in latin america when the carter administration thought that the way to the future was the authentic voice of the people was groups like the sandinistas in el salvadoran how do we know they are fended? they hated america. and so you see the refusal to engage in political warfare in places like egypt, where you know, 48% of the people voted against mohamed morsi for president. right now, today, this week, there are thousands of egyptians in the streets protesting. the stat